tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8294323887747091246.post373552881446693141..comments2023-03-24T07:14:02.177-04:00Comments on Snowman Says: I Don't Get Itsn0m8nhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09815043766342554921noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8294323887747091246.post-86769645157972897352008-10-07T22:39:00.000-04:002008-10-07T22:39:00.000-04:00College mile times don't count! Enjoyed the MDI re...College mile times don't count! Enjoyed the MDI read.middle.professorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02370737843957507859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8294323887747091246.post-38917198302371493222008-10-06T19:54:00.000-04:002008-10-06T19:54:00.000-04:00P.S. That running calculator is fascinating. I jus...P.S. That running calculator is fascinating. I just plugged in my mile PR, which I consider the "best" of my PRs, and the results are interesting...really interesting. That being said, I ran that in college, and I'm a totally different person right now. If I ever get back to that kind of shape/speed/fitness, it would be amazing...and probably illegal.sn0m8nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09815043766342554921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8294323887747091246.post-9054040672135391262008-10-06T19:50:00.000-04:002008-10-06T19:50:00.000-04:00Jeff - I think you just melted my frontal lobe. No...Jeff - I think you just melted my frontal lobe. No, seriously, it makes a lot of sense. That being said, there's no way I'll be running 7:30's for the marathon. That's nuts. I may have to have a chat with Senor McMillian. Or I could try to run 7:30's, and we could all watch the hilarity ensue. But, what's interesting, if I take the best 2 miles of that 5k I just did and plug that time into the calculator, I get fairly close to what I think/hope I can do for the marathon. I didn't adjust for trail b/c 85% of the trail I ran on was carriage road. I've never run at Twin Brook, so I'm not sure what it would compare to.sn0m8nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09815043766342554921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8294323887747091246.post-18908679141328725312008-10-06T14:14:00.000-04:002008-10-06T14:14:00.000-04:00That's an estimated *mile* time of 5:47.8 (runnin...That's an estimated *mile* time of 5:47.8 (running only the mile on a track).middle.professorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02370737843957507859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8294323887747091246.post-11550992876746798122008-10-06T14:12:00.000-04:002008-10-06T14:12:00.000-04:00No! you could do a way faster track or road mile! ...No! you could do a way faster track or road mile! But consider Ethan Hemphill - the current king of the road races in Maine. His 5K time on a flat course is usually just over 15 minutes, for example at the Eliot 5K in 2007:<BR/><BR/>15:08* 4:53 Ethan Hemphill<BR/><BR/>while 2 weeks later in the Craig Cup 5K XC at Twin Brook, his time was 26 seconds/mile slower!<BR/><BR/>Ethan Hemphill 151 35 M Freeport ME 16:29 5:19<BR/><BR/>So if we knock of 30s/mile (a good average for most runners) from the craig cup to a typical flat 5K, this would suggest you could race a 5K at a 6:28 pace (that's a 20:05 5K). at 20s/doubling distance this would suggest that you could race a 40K at 7:28/mile. Since you ran less than 40K at way slower than 7:28, the 7:30 should have been really easy and it was!<BR/><BR/>Just to check with McMillan running calculator (google it)...<BR/><BR/>A 20:05 5K is equivalent to a 2:27:00 20 miler, which is a 7:21 pace, so my quick and dirty calculate was conservative. But yeh, you should have felt great after the 7:30 mile following 20 miles and like shit after the 6:58/mi 2 miles on the trail (assuming it was like twin brook). And McMillan has your estimated time at 5:47.8. If you are much faster than this, it means you are not well trained for endurance (oops maybe I should have told you this after the MDI).middle.professorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02370737843957507859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8294323887747091246.post-63627973015272090532008-10-04T11:55:00.000-04:002008-10-04T11:55:00.000-04:00Perhaps you haven't heard of the Beast Run. First ...Perhaps you haven't heard of the Beast Run. First run on June 6th, 2006 (666) a bunch of Trail Monsters met at Jim's to run the trails behind his house. We each drank a beer, ran a 3/4 mile loop and repeated the process. Erik won that year with I think 9 laps/9 beers. In 2007 my friend Peter from Scotland won with 11 laps/11 beers. He was violently ill after the race but did not vomit during so he was not disqualified. Derek still has scars from the 2007 Beast Run. The "race" hasn't happened this year but it's not too late!R. Ian Parlinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07105935770269826514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8294323887747091246.post-29713706765527004692008-10-04T11:03:00.000-04:002008-10-04T11:03:00.000-04:00"Chunder Mile!!!"Now that would be a good race for..."Chunder Mile!!!"<BR/><BR/>Now that would be a good race for Ian to add to the TMR list of 2009 races :-)Sparkplughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13263276768990740027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8294323887747091246.post-55447411964626425002008-10-04T08:25:00.000-04:002008-10-04T08:25:00.000-04:00Chunder Mile!!!<A HREF="http://www.beermile.com/" REL="nofollow">Chunder Mile!!!</A>sn0m8nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09815043766342554921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8294323887747091246.post-64759800232164986392008-10-03T22:20:00.000-04:002008-10-03T22:20:00.000-04:00Here's the plan: After 4 beers at Novare Res we wi...Here's the plan: After 4 beers at Novare Res we will all make our way down to Commercial Street where I will have marked out a 1 mile course. We'll have a little race and see what you can do. Jeff failed to mention the effects of alcohol on ones perception of speed!R. Ian Parlinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07105935770269826514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8294323887747091246.post-91792261505949874782008-10-03T20:26:00.000-04:002008-10-03T20:26:00.000-04:00Wow! That actually does make sense. It's good to k...Wow! That actually does make sense. It's good to know smart people! THANKS! But, it's also kind of depressing...does that mean that my aerobic threshold for a single mile is right around 6:58? In other words, can I only realistically expect to run in the neighborhood of 6:58 for mile on the track right now? Not that I'm planning on doing this, but that's...well, let's just say it's significantly off my PR.sn0m8nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09815043766342554921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8294323887747091246.post-64920875582362795902008-10-03T16:26:00.000-04:002008-10-03T16:26:00.000-04:00On your long run, you kept your pace well below th...On your long run, you kept your pace well below the aerobic limit and could comfortably do this, literally, forever, if it weren't for the physical tearing on your lower limbs. 7:30 on the roads is probably not very aerobically taxing either, so kicking this out after a long run should be easy from the perspective of muscle physiology and even mental physiology (your brain recognizes that muscles aren't fatigued and O2 is not limiting heart and brain function) but maybe not so easy on the physical condition of your lower limb muscles and connective tissue (there will be tearing) and that part of mental physiology that knows you just ran 21 miles. 6:58 on a trail is probably much closer to your aerobic limit, especially given the compliant surface that absorbs energy and the steeper ascents that are common to trails and not roads. So, with less blood O2, your brain is saying, "whoaa, we're getting low O2 levels to the heart and brain so I'm going to make you feel "fatigued" so that you slow down". I didn't really matter what you ran before either time. Make sense?<BR/><BR/>Jeffmiddle.professorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02370737843957507859noreply@blogger.com